Skim coating of walls?

Anyone had this done instead of rewallpapering and is the result good!

sanguine19, Jan 17, 10:26 am

yes and yes. so glad we went with this choice. easy to change whenever we want also.

eburb, Jan 17, 10:32 am

It fractures easily though

thecritic, Jan 17, 10:40 am

dont let them skim over the old wallpaperstripthen tape old joins if not already tapedplaster and then skim coattwice at least .

joebar, Jan 17, 2:31 pm

Ok thanks. :)

sanguine19, Jan 17, 2:55 pm

Our repairs start next week (yay!) and there is talk of skim coating the walls OVER the wallpaper. To save having to remove the paper. We were told they paint some stuff on the wallpaper that makes the skim coat stick.

Is that not a good idea!

louise.w, Jan 17, 8:09 pm

lambrat, Jan 21, 12:37 am

A good link lambrat .pretty much sums up EQC policy for repair .under the DONT column

golfaholic2, Jan 21, 8:01 am

i reckon louise.w - and others with imminent repairs - should print out plenty and hang all over their house once its empty . and take lots of photos

lambrat, Jan 21, 8:09 am

Dont plaster over paper. Thats what EQC did to our place to save money and our wallpaper bubbled away from the wall and ended up looking like our house was lined in bubble wrap. Added an extra 4 weeks onto our already 7week long repair time for them to fix it.

andrea210, Jan 21, 3:53 pm

Agree - neighbours had this done about 12 months. Its cracked so badly it looks worse now than before they repaired it.

shannie1998, Jan 21, 4:53 pm

Been painting and plastering 20 years and i would NEVER reccomend doing it if you want a quality job done.

jezabeel, Jan 21, 4:57 pm

its the cheap fixthey are being paid to stripthe paperso have them do it

joebar, Jan 21, 6:55 pm

interesting to read this.we have lathe n plaster walls and eqc and said to remove paper, rake out and stop, replace paper and paint.the same with the walls that are gib.we've opted out and the contractor thinks we should just plaster over the cracks, then paint.he's someone i trust, but after reading this i'm not sure this is a good idea!he reckons it would be quicker, less mess and have a better finish.!

arcticrose, Jan 28, 11:48 am

lath plastermust have a layer of lining paper or wall paperbefore it can be paintedanother option is a wide mesh being applieda product namedfibrafuse.if you just fix the cracksand have no lining over the lathe plasterit will crack some stage

joebar, Jan 28, 11:54 am

Do these people not know anything! Skim coating lath and plaster and then painting is like having concrete with no reinforcing, or a plaster cast on your arm with no bandage in it. The wall has to be papered otherwise after a time you may (will) get thousands of tiny cracks appearing. You won't be able to pull out a drawing pin without a piece of plaster coming out which will turn into a hole the size of a dinner plate.
They have had little or no experience in older properties.

bookman2, Jan 28, 11:56 am

i think the contracter meant leaving the paper on and just plastering overtop of the existing paper.there was also talk of skim coatinghmmmmm

arcticrose, Jan 28, 4:20 pm

The wallpaper is only held on by whatever paste is holding the bottom layer. Putting on a layer of plaster and paint is just more weight for it to hold. Plus the fact that while it is wet and then drying it alters the surface tension on the paste and paper, putting inexorable pressure on it like a starfish opening a clam.
Don't settle for half a job. You'll regret it in a year or two when they will have long disappeared.

bookman2, Jan 28, 7:45 pm

You pigment seal over the wallpaper or lining paper with an oil based sealer before skimming the walls. Excellent finish especially over older historical lath & plaster with humps and bumps in the walls.

corkranb, Jan 28, 8:24 pm

There is often a lot of damage done to the walls when stripping the paper off, if the paper is loose take it off, if not skim over the top. It has been done for years with excellent results. Must be pig sealed tho

rapids17, Jan 28, 9:12 pm


rolf4, Jan 28, 9:28 pm

Gidday old mate its been a while haha

rapids17, Jan 28, 9:29 pm

Yeah, next you will tell people it's okay to paint over lining paper and anaglypta, what has the industry become.

rolf4, Jan 28, 9:35 pm

It's fine to do that. I wouldn't do it on many papers which I hadn't pasted on myself though.

bookman2, Jan 28, 10:05 pm

I hear you bookman2, wallpaper, lining paper, anaglypta was used to cover up shitting plastering and before taping days. The point is, what has the earthquake actually done and whats the solution! I see many opinions on what and how, but who actually has experience in this type of work, before the earthquakes started! Most builders don't! All situations are different and should be assessed individually by someone with half a brain.

rolf4, Jan 28, 10:23 pm

Know people that do this.Makes my blood boil knowing they are supposed to remove paper then plaster.But they just want to get in and out,and get paid.I was asked to put fibrefuse over a very cracked,bubbled papered ceiling.Only when i said the plster will bring it all down did they change the strategy.And the said paper came off with one clean sweep of my go figure.

kletis1, Jan 28, 10:23 pm

Yeah,who's job is it to tape and plaster internal corners that were never done,but show after paper is off! It's a whole big mess lol.

kletis1, Jan 28, 10:27 pm

Clowns who have no experience in the industry is the problem. Funny how I had them all come out to one of my jobs way back asking what this fibrefuse was! Funnier still, they don't pay for the service!

rolf4, Jan 28, 10:30 pm

I'm hearing ya.A plasterer i know has never done it.Yip, had a bunch of pen pushers watching us put it on to.They reckoned all homes were going to have it. 7 mths later,try 4 out of 50 houses have.Dick heads!

kletis1, Jan 28, 10:34 pm

Hi Kletis1 hope all is well, always assumed you were a painter, sorry my bad.
If the paper is removed then yes, you have way more work than anyone has ever allowed for in their stupid check boxes, I feel that this is going to be the biggest cock-up in the building industry in New Zealand history.

rolf4, Jan 28, 10:38 pm

rolf4,i am actually a painter by trade,but have done all manner of plastering for just as long.Seems to be the norm now,the painter does the plaster work.yip,i have always said it will come back to haunt them,though they will all have denied all previous knowledge when it does.I cannot see these "repairs" standing the test of time.

kletis1, Jan 28, 10:52 pm

Thanks Kletis1, nice to know, just remember if you have played with lathe and plaster over the years, you mightdie, they decided it might contain asbestos, including anything that even looks like a texture coat on a ceiling.

rolf4, Jan 28, 10:56 pm

mmmm it might they say.I hate the way they work.might write a book one day about everything that i have witnessed lol

kletis1, Jan 28, 11:13 pm

We're all going to die. I wasn't aware of asbestos in lath and plaster though there are a couple of other time bombs I know about.
In the late '70's and through the '80's Housing NZ decided every state house in Christchurch, probably countrywide actually, had to be completely burned off of lead paint and all asbestos sidings (polite) had to be painted. A good deal of the paint flakes ended up buried in the soil around the houses and the asbestos was water blasted clean prior to painting at 3000psi, spraying fibres all over every back and front yard. They are all still there, no doubt, or at least, the ones which haven't been inhaled.

bookman2, Jan 28, 11:14 pm

so if the lining paper is bubbled and some walls have crumbled under the paper.what would you suggest to do!strip the paper, smooth the wall then re-paper and paint!

arcticrose, Jan 29, 3:15 pm

if the wall is a lathe and plaster type and is crumbling it may need replacingwith gibor at the leastcompletely covered with a wide fibafuse mesh and skimmed.

joebar, Jan 29, 5:21 pm

Can you really paint over lining paper, that wasnt in the book I read before calling myself a painter called "the cowboys guide to painting". Im with you there is no one repair strategy fits all.

rapids17, Jan 30, 6:26 am

So what exactly are your qualifications!

bookman2, Jan 30, 7:46 am

rapids17 used to watch "Brush Strokes"

rolf4, Jan 30, 6:17 pm

Just use the full fibre fuse system. Problem solved. See

russell, Dec 22, 10:44 am

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